TESTIMONY OF MRS. BARBARA JEANETTE DAVIS beginning at 3H342...

Mr. BALL. Mrs. Davis, you didn't get the notice through the mail asking you to appear here?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. We told you orally in Washington, or in Dallas last Friday, didn't we?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. DULLES. She has not been sworn. Will you kindly raise your right hand?
Do you solemnly swear the testimony you will give to this Commission is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Mrs. DAVIS. I do.
Mr. BALL. Mrs. Davis, you didn't get a letter from the Commission asking you to appear here?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. But when Mr. Belin and I were in Dallas on Friday of last week we asked you to appear?
Mrs. DAVIS. On Saturday.
Mr. BALL. On Saturday, was it?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. That is right. And you voluntarily agreed to come up here, didn't you?
Mrs. DAVIS. That is right,
Mr. BALL. Without any notice from the Commission?
Mrs. DAVIS. That is right.
Mr. BALL. Where do you live?
Mr. DULLES. May we thank you for that.
Mrs. DAVIS. Athens, Tex.
Mr. BALL. Where do you live?
Mrs. DAVIS. Athens, Tex.
Mr. BALL. You are married, are you?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. You have some children?
Mrs. DAVIS. Two.
Mr. BALL. What is your husband's name?
Mrs. DAVIS. Troy.
Mr. BALL. Troy Davis?
Mrs. DAVIS. Troy Lee Davis.
Mr. BALL. What is your business or what is his business?
Mrs. DAVIS. He is a roofer.
Mr. BALL. Beg pardon?
Mrs. DAVIS. He is a roofer.
Mr. BALL. Where were you born, Mrs. Davis?
Mrs. DAVIS. Athens.
Mr. BALL. Athens?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Live there all your life?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes; part of it I have lived in Dallas some.
Mr. BALL. Where did you go to school?
Mrs. DAVIS. Athens.
Mr. BALL. How far through school did you go?
Mrs. DAVIS. Halfway through the 10th midterm.
Mr. BALL. Then did you get married?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. You were living in Dallas on November 22, were you?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. What was your address there in Dallas?

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Mrs. DAVIS. 400 East 10th.
Mr. BALL. Who was living with you at that time?
Mrs. DAVIS. You mean in the apartment or in the building?
Mr. BALL. In the apartment with you.
Mrs. DAVIS. Just my husband and two children.
Mr. BALL. You had a sister, did you?
Mrs. DAVIS. Sister-in-law.
Mr. BALL. What is her name?
Mrs. DAVIS. Virginia.
Mr. BALL. Was she living there at the time, too?
Mrs. DAVIS. They lived around the side of the apartment house.
Mr. BALL. In the same building?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. That was your husband's sister?
Mrs. DAVIS. No; it was my husband's brother's wife.
Mr. BALL. Husband's brother's wife. I see.
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. I have got some pictures here so we will understand. I will show you Exhibit 525. Is the house in which you were living on November 22d shown in the picture?
Mrs. DAVIS. Here.
Mr. BALL. It is the one on the comer?The southeast corner of 10th and Patten, isn't it?
Mrs. DAVIS. I don't know anything about that, but I know where it is.
Mr. BALL. I will show you Commission Exhibit 524. Is the house shown in that picture?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes; sir.
Mr. BALL. And I show you 534, is the house shown in that picture?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. I am showing you 528 and there is a lawn there, that is the lawn of what house?
Mrs. DAVIS. Of the house I lived in.
Mr. BALL. The house you lived in.
On that day did something unusual happen that you observed, on November 22d?
Mrs. DAVIS. Those gunshots.
Mr. BALL. Gunshots? Where were you when you heard gunshots?
Mrs. DAVIS. In bed.
Mr. DULLES. Did you say gunshot or gunshots?
Mrs. DAVIS. Shots.
Mr. DULLES. Plural? How many did you hear?
Mrs. DAVIS. Just two, they were pretty close together.
Mr. BALL. You were lying on the bed. What did you do?
Mrs. DAVIS. I got up, put my shoes on to see what it was.
Mr. BALL. Did you ever go outdoors?
Mrs. DAVIS. At first, I didn't.
Mr. BALL. When you went to the door, did you open the door?
Mrs. DAVIS. I opened the door and held the screen opened.
Mr. BALL. What did you see?
Mrs. DAVIS. Mrs. Markham standing across the street over there, and she was standing over there and the man was coming across the yard.
Mr. BALL. A man was coming across what yard?
Mrs. DAVIS. My yard.
Mr. BALL. And what did you see the man doing?
Mrs. DAVIS. Well, first off she went to screaming before I had paid too much attention to him, and pointing at him, and he was, what I thought, was emptying the gun.
Mr. BALL. He had a gun in his hand?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. And he was emptying it?
Mrs. DAVIS. It was open and he had his hands cocked like he was emptying it.
Mr. DULLES. Which hand did he have it?

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Mrs. DAVIS. Right hand.
Mr. BALL. To his left palm?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did you see him throw anything away?
Mrs. DAVIS. No.
Mr. BALL. You didn't?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. What did you do next?
Mrs. DAVIS. He looked at her first and looked at me and then smiled and went around the corner.
Mr. BALL. Was he running or walking?
Mrs. DAVIS. He was walking at his normal pace.
Mr. BALL. And he went around the corner? Did he go on the sidewalk?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes. He was on the sidewalk right beside the house.
Mr. BALL. Did he go, did he cut across your lawn at all?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Where?
Mrs. DAVIS. He cut across the middle of the yard.
Mr. BALL. Here is a diagram, 523, this is 400--that is your home.
Mrs. DAVIS. He came right across like this.
Mr. BALL. Came across like this?
Mrs. DAVIS. Ran beside the sidewalk.
Mr. BALL. There is already a mark on there.
Mrs. DAVIS. He left the sidewalk about here, just on the other side of this.
Mr. BALL. Well, mark on the picture now, photo 21 which is Commission Exhibit 534, and you just take this and mark with it and show where he left the sidewalk and what course he took.
Mrs. DAVIS. He was just parallel to the side of this and right around this little bush and around the corner.
Mr. BALL. Around the corner?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. The black mark from the sidewalk on 534 marks the course that the man took?
Representative FORD. Could you tell us where you were standing when you saw him?
Mrs. DAVIS. I was standing on the porch.
Mr. BALL. Put an "X" there.
Mrs. DAVIS. I can't see the porch. The door is right between these two things here.
Mr. BALL. These two things--what do you mean?
Mrs. DAVIS. Between the two posts.
Mr. BALL. Two posts?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Let's get a better view.
Mr. DULLES. It seems to be the best.
Mr. BALL. You are right.
That is 525.
Now mark where he cut across on that with a line.
Mrs. DAVIS. Right across like this, only it would be on the other side of the bushes here.
Mr. BALL. Yes.
And where were you?
Mrs. DAVIS. Standing right--here is the door right here.
Mr. BALL. Put an "X" there. That "X" is a mark to locate your position and we will give a symbol to it. "D." Now, the line you have drawn from the sidewalk through the bushes is the course the man took. Where was he when you saw him emptying his gun?
Mrs. DAVIS. He was right here on the other side of this bush.
Mr. BALL. Draw a line through the course there.
Mrs. DAVIS. Just about along in here.
Mr. DULLES. Did you know at the time he was emptying his gun?

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Mrs. DAVIS. That is what I presumed because he had it open and was shaking it.
Mr. DULLES. I see. Just right there.
Mr. BALL. In other words, there is a cross you make across the line that he took which marks the place where he was emptying the gun.
Mrs. DAVIS. Just about halfway there.
Mr. BALL. Mark it also on 21, 534.
Mrs. DAVIS. Not quite half, not quite to the bushes there.
Representative FORD. Mr. Ball, even though she cannot pinpoint-the point where she was standing because of the photograph, she might draw an arrow showing about where she was standing.
Mr. BALL. Show an arrow about where you were standing.
Mrs. DAVIS. About there.
Mr. BALL. That is 21, photo 21 and Commission Exhibit 534.
After the man left, what did you do, after he went out of sight what did you do?
Mrs. DAVIS. I went back in and phoned the police.
Mr. BALL. Then what did you tell the police?
Mrs. DAVIS. I just told them that a policeman had been shot.
Mr. BALL. Then what did you do?
Mrs. DAVIS. I came back outside and walked down to where the policeman's car was out.
Mr. BALL. Did you see the policeman?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Where was he?
Mrs. DAVIS. He was laying on the left-hand side of the car on the ground, by the left-hand fender.
Mr. BALL. Was he alive or what?
Mrs. DAVIS. I don't know.
Mr. BALL. Did he talk?
Mrs. DAVIS. No.
Mr. BALL. You didn't know whether he was alive or dead?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir; I didn't get that close.
Mr. BALL. How long did you stay there?
Mrs. DAVIS. Not 5 minutes, I would imagine, because the police cars started coming, so I went back to my yard.
Mr. BALL. Did you see a man coming and get the policeman's gun?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, I didn't.
Mr. BALL. Did you later look in the bushes and find something?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes; in the grass beside the house.
Mr. BALL. The grass beside the house. What did you find?
Mrs. DAVIS. We found one shell.
Mr. BALL. One shell?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. And your sister-in-law, did your sister-in-law find something else?
Mrs. DAVIS. She found one later in the afternoon.
Mr. BALL. One, later?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Can you show me on one of these pictures here where you found one shell?
Mrs. DAVIS. Under the window here. That would be the only one I could tell.
Mr. BALL. The only one that shows, it is photo 3, it is Commission Exhibit 534. Draw an arrow down.
Mrs. DAVIS. Right under that window there.
Mr. BALL. Under that window.
The arrow which is marked "D-1" shows the position where you found one shell. Did you see your sister-in- law find the other shell?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Where was that found?
Mrs. DAVIS. There is a little cement walk right here by her door, it was right there, not too far from there.

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Mr. BALL. Could you draw an arrow down to show the approximate position?
Mrs. DAVIS. It was almost in front of her door, there is a little cement porch to step up to her door.
Mr. BALL. The arrow which we marked as "D-2" marks the place where your sister-in-law found the second shell?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. You only found two shells, did you, you one and your sister-in-law one?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. What time of day did you find the one shell?
Mrs. DAVIS. I don't know. This was probably an hour and a half, maybe 2 hours, after the officer was shot.
Mr. BALL. What time of day did your sister-in-law find her shell, find the shell that she found?
Mr. DAVIS. Somewhere around 4:30, 5, somewhere in there.
Mr. BALL. Did you later go down to the police station?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Were you shown a group of people in the police station and asked if you could identify the man?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Were you alone in that room when you were shown these people?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Who was with you?
Mrs. DAVIS. My husband, my sister-in-law was with me, and some other men.
Mr. BALL. That is your husband Troy, your sister-in-law Virginia Davis, and yourself, and other men?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did you know those men?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Were police officers there?
Mrs. DAVIS. They were all in suits, some sat at the back of the room.
Mr. BALL. When those--how many men were shown to you in this lineup?
Mrs. DAVIS. Four.
Mr. BALL. Were they of the same size or of different sizes?
Mrs. DAVIS. Most of them was about the same size.
Mr. BALL. All white men, were they?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did you recognize anyone in that room?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir. I recognized number 2.
Mr. BALL. Number 2 you recognized? Did you tell any policeman there anything after you recognized them?
Mrs. DAVIS. I told the man who had brought us down there.
Mr. BALL. What did you tell him
Mrs. DAVIS. That I thought number 2 was the man that I saw.
Mr. BALL. That you saw?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. By number 2, was the man you saw the man you saw doing what?
Mrs. DAVIS. Unloading the gun.
Mr. BALL. And going across your yard?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. That was about what time of day that you were at the lineup?
Mrs. DAVIS. It was after 8, I am sure.
Mr. BALL. After when?
Mrs. DAVIS. After 8 o'clock.
Mr. BALL. On what day?
Mrs. DAVIS. On Friday, the same day.
Mr. BALL. The same day? It was after 8 o'clock on Friday, the same day that you had seen the man unloading the gun?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. DULLES. Have you any way of fixing the time of when the man ran across your lawn, approximately?

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Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir; not exactly because I had laid down with the children and I didn't pay any attention to what time it was.
Representative FORD. You saw him take the shells out of the gun?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir; he was shaking them.
Representative FORD. He was shaking them?
Mrs. DAVIS. He was shaking them. I didn't see him actually use his hand to take them out. I mean he was sort of shaking them out.
Representative FORD. Did you find this one bullet at the point where you saw him shake the gun?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir; it was around the side of the house.
Representative FORD. About how many feet?
Mrs. DAVIS. I don't know. Not too far.
Representative FORD. But he had moved from the one point to where you found the bullets?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Representative FORD. Yes.
Mrs. DAVIS. That is where they started looking for it.
Representative FORD. I meant the shells rather than the bullets.
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Was he dressed the same in the lineup as he was when you saw him running across the lawn?
Mrs. DAVIS. All except he didn't have a black coat on when I saw him in the lineup.
Mr. BALL. Did he have a coat on when you saw him?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. What color coat?
Mrs. DAVIS. A dark coat.
Mr. BALL. Now, did you recognize him from his face or from his clothes when you saw him in the lineup?
Mrs. DAVIS. Well, I looked at his clothes and then his face from the side because I had seen him from a side view of him. I didn't see him fullface.
Mr. BALL. Now answer the question. Did you recognize him from seeing his face or from his clothes?
Mrs. DAVIS. From his face because that was all I was looking at.
Mr. BALL. I see. Now, when you heard the shots you were lying down, were you?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Was anyone lying with you?
Mrs. DAVIS. Virginia was laying on the couch.
Mr. BALL. In the same room with you?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did she go to the door with you when you went to the door?
Mrs. DAVIS. She went right behind me.
Mr. BALL. I have a jacket, I would like to show you, which is Commission Exhibit No. 162. Does this look anything like the jacket that the man had on that was going across your lawn?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. How is it different?
Mrs. DAVIS. Well, it was dark and to me it looked like it was maybe a wool fabric, it looked sort of rough. Like more of a sporting jacket.
Mr. BALL. I show you a shirt which is Commission Exhibit No. 150. Was that--does that shirt look anything like something he had on, that the man had on who went across your lawn?
Mrs. DAVIS. I thought that the shirt he had on was lighter than that.
Mr. BALL. I have no further questions. Where was Mrs. Markham when you first saw her?
Mrs. DAVIS. She was standing right here on this corner.
Mr. BALL. That picture?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. That picture that you refer to is photo number 3, Commission Exhibit 524.
It is as shown on the corner here, as the woman who is shown in the corner?

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Mrs. DAVIS. That was her position.
Representative FORD. Do you wear glasses, Mrs. Davis?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir.
Representative FORD. Have you had your eyes examined recently?
Mrs. DAVIS. I believe it was in October when I applied for some driver's license.
Representative FORD. In October of 1963?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Representative FORD. You applied for a driver's license?
Mrs. DAVIS. I believe it was the first--some time in October, I believe.
Representative FORD. When you applied for a driver's license in Texas you have to take an examination?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Representative FORD. And you did take one?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Representative FORD. Did they recommend that you wear glasses?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir. He said my eyes are all right.
Representative FORD. He said your eyes were all right?
Mr. DULLES. Have you had any problems with the law at any time?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir.
Mr. DULLES. Except for traffic violations?
Mrs. DAVIS. No.
Mr. DULLES. Thank you. What is your husband's occupation?
Mrs. DAVIS. He is a roofer.
Mr. DULLES. What?
Mrs. DAVIS. Puts shingles and roofs on houses.
Mr. DULLES. Oh, yes, surely.
Mr. BALL. Mrs. Davis, before you went down to look at the man at the police station at 8 o'clock that night, had you seen television pictures of the man on television that he had been arrested?
Mrs. DAVIS. As far as I can remember I don't remember seeing it because I was out in the yard all the time that was going on, and I don't believe the TV was on.
Mr. BALL. Before you saw the man in the lineup were you shown a picture of any man by a police officer?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did you read a newspaper and see any pictures in a newspaper, picture of a man in the newspaper, before you went down there?
Mrs. DAVIS. I don't really know. I couldn't be quite sure. I can't remember whether I did or not.
Mr. BALL. Do you take an evening or a morning paper?
Mrs. DAVIS. We take an afternoon paper, we took an afternoon paper then.
Mr. BALL. Do you recall whether or not you did see a picture in the paper of the man?
Mrs. DAVIS. I don't remember. I don't even remember whether I read it or not. There was so much excitement.
Mr. BALL. When the man ran over the lawn, can you give me an estimate of how far away he was from you?
Mrs. DAVIS. I can't.
Mr. BALL. Make a judgment about it as to this room. Is it as far away from you to me?
Mrs. DAVIS. It was about as far as here to the corner of the room out there, or just a little bit more, the far corner.
Representative FORD. Just a little less, did you say?
Mrs. DAVIS. About like that.
Mr. BELIN About seven or eight steps?
Mr. BALL. About 20, 25 feet, is that right?
Mrs. DAVIS. I believe so.
Mr. BALL. There is an affidavit that has been filed with us, a statement you made to the Secret Service men on the first of December 1963. And in that affidavit, it says, after describing that "The man was on the sidewalk directly
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in front of me and shaking shells from a pistol into his hand as he walked," this says here. "The man was walking in a normal direction and walked across the corner of my property towards Patton Street."
Did you ever tell anyone that you saw the man walking in a normal direction?
Mrs. DAVIS. No; I showed them where it was at, and they done that.
Mr. BALL. I see. He was walking--what direction?
Mrs. DAVIS. I didn't know. And so they figured that out.
Mr. BALL. He was walking towards what street?
Mrs. DAVIS. He was going down Patton.
Mr. BALL. Towards what street?
Mr. DAVIS. Jefferson. And so they figured it out for me.
Mr. BALL. However--when--did you see the man after he went around the corner of your house?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir.
Representative FORD. Did you see the taxicab parked on the corner?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Let's go back to that afternoon, and you give your best memory of what the man looked like. Don't think of what anybody has told you or what has happened in between. Try to remember the vision you had of that man--the color of his hair, the size of his build and so forth.
Mrs. DAVIS. You mean weight and like that?
Mr. BALL. He was white, wasn't he?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Light complexioned, or dark?
Mrs. DAVIS. He was more light complected than he would have been dark.
Mr. BALL. Color of his hair?
Mrs. DAVIS. It was either dark brown or black. It was just dark hair.
Mr. BALL. And the color of his clothes?
Mrs. DAVIS. Well, I said he had on--he looked to me that he had on dark trousers, and it looked like a light colored shirt, with a dark coat over it.
Mr. BALL. About what age would you say the man was?
Mrs. DAVIS. I am not very good on that. I don't know. I would say he was about 23, 24.
Mr. BALL. And what about his weight and height?
Mrs. DAVIS. I--
Mr. BALL. You have to be general, I know that.
Mr. DULLES. Just your best recollection. If you haven't any, just tell us.
Mrs. DAVIS. I just don't know.
Mr. BALL. Was he fat or slender?
Mrs. DAVIS. He was slender built, and not very heavy.
Mr. BALL. Was he a tall man, or a real short man, or average?
Mrs. DAVIS. Oh, he wasn't especially tall. I would say he was about medium height or a little taller. I mean he wasn't extra tall.
Mr. BALL. Now, did you have some difficulty in identifying this No. 2 man in the showup when you saw him?
Mrs. DAVIS. Well, they made us look at him a long time before they let us say anything.
Mr. BALL. What about you? I am not talking about what you told them.
What was your reaction when you saw this man?
Mrs. DAVIS. Well, I was pretty sure it was the same man I saw. When they made him turn sideways, I was positive that was the one I seen.
Mr. BALL. I have no further questions.
Mr. BELIN. Thank you, Mrs. Davis.
Mr. DULLES. Did your sister-in-law go with you to the lineup?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. DULLES. Did she make an identification?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. DULLES. At the same time as you did?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. DULLES. Did you see her identification?
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Mr. DULLES. I mean, but after she had made it, did you see what identification she had made?
Mrs. DAVIS. Do you mean--I don't understand what you mean.
Mr. DULLES. Well, let me start over again.
Did you identify the man in the lineup before your sister-in-law?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. DULLES. Before your sister-in-law?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir; I was the first one.
Mr. DULLES. All right.
Did your sister-in-law, to your knowledge, make the same identification?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir; she was there with me at the same time.
Mr. DULLES. She was standing with you. And she saw the identification you had made?
Mrs. DAVIS. All I done was just lean over and tell the man.
Mr. DULLES. How did you make your identification? By pointing or holding up your fingers.
Mrs. DAVIS. The man that was sitting next to me just asked me which one I thought it was, and I leaned over and told him. And then he leaned around me and asked her.
Mr. DULLES. He did what?
Mrs. DAVIS. He leaned around--he was behind me, and asked her.
Mr. DULLES. I see.
Mrs. DAVIS. I sort of set up where he could talk to her.
Mr. DULLES. And did you identify the man by number or by pointing?
Mrs. DAVIS. By number.
Mr. DULLES. Do you remember what number it was?
Mrs. DAVIS. It was number 2. From the left.
Mr. DULLES. Have you any questions?
Representative FORD. Did you whisper this information to the man behind you?
Mrs. DAVIS. Well, we were all sitting in a line, and he was sitting on this side of me. He just leaned over and asked me which one I thought it was.
Representative FORD. He was sitting on your right?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Representative FORD. And you turned to your right and told him?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Representative FORD. And your sister-in-law was sitting on your left?
Mrs. DAVIS. On the other side, yes.
Representative FORD. When you spoke to him, you were speaking away from her?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Representative FORD. Did you speak in a loud voice or a whisper?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir; very quietly.
Representative FORD. You think your sister-in-law heard you say the number?
Mrs. DAVIS. I don't know.
Mr. DULLES. Mr. Attorney General, have you any questions?
Mr. CARR. Thank you, I do not.
Mr. MURRAY. I have no questions.
Mr. BELIN. I think the record should show that although the witness did not receive the letter notifying her of our request for an appearance, we mailed it to her last known address at 400 East 10th Street, and the letter came back here. But the notice was mailed to the witness. It was just that it was not forwarded to where she now lives in Athens.
Mr. DULLES, You had moved from this house where these incidents took place?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. DULLES. Off the record.
( Discussion off the record. )
Mr. DULLES. You are excused. Thank you very much.
Mr. BELIN. Our next witness is Mr. Ted Callaway.